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pitlane mechanics
jam file gp2 to gp3
Ai Lines (cc-line)
S/F Line
SW-BACKGROUND BLUES (transparency)
how works track editor
Mapping the 3d crowd
Bumptable
gp3jam editor ???
Night racing.............
Is there an (pit stop) editor?
gpxpatch
Posted by Andrew Smart from 195.92.194.16:
I have this problem where i have the cars on the left of the pitlane but the mechanics
are on the right of the pitlane. how do i move the mechanics to the left side to
where the cars are
Posted by Bob P from 206.47.244.60:
I had this happen once to me back in the GP2 days. It is because you moved the pitlane
from one side (where it was in the original track) to the other side. The pit crew
are objects and are still set to be on the right. You just need to edit the position
of the object to be opposite. If the distance from center is negative make it positive
or vice versa.
Posted by Andrew Smart from 195.92.194.19:
what is the nameof the object cuzi have looked for this and cannot find it
Posted by Bob P from 206.47.244.60:
the pit crew is object [4] (fifth one) in the Object definition list. Change the
-576 to 576 (think that should be the Y (DFC) value.
Bob P
Posted by M from 213.196.15.129:
if the pitlane is moved from the left to the right, it might also be needed to rotate
the object ([4]) by 180 degrees.
i had to change the sign of the dfc value (like bob p says) and rotate the crew to
get it right in a track i experimented with.
Posted by mortalwombat from 203.109.243.129:
Hi guys, I'm looking for some info on jam file conversion if there is any
Posted by David Schneider from 213.3.140.47:
Yes....
....you can convert both into Bitmap files. So you can take a GP2Jam to GP3.
But the Quality will not be very good....
Posted by JackieMatra from 205.188.192.162:
Actually, the quality depends on the particular graphic. Some of the addon adverts
for GP2, for example, are really excellent.
Posted by Andrew from 205.188.192.44:
Well they may be excelent but scene as gp2 has a limited palette they are not good
quality compaired to what is possable with gp3
Posted by Matt from 203.108.0.57:
How come when you open up a track the ai lines are like 500 meters away from the
actual track? It makes it totally confusing.
Posted by addie from 194.191.82.27:
i assume you mean "open a track in the TE"
- whatever it is it is not the fault uf the TE. there were several hard tries to
resolve it in the past and they all failed. so for the moment it looks like we have
to live with it.
for us common trackediting people this means we have to make a cc-line the hard way
by starting over at 0 (remove cc-line) and then checking every new inserted or changed
sector in the game.
you find a guide for cc-line editing on my page http://www.grandprix3.ch/TEIC/index.html
follow "writings"
Posted by Dikkie from 213.116.142.69:
Hi guys
I downloaded addie's tutorials and it really helps me understanding things much better,
but I faced a problem.... It seems I can move all parts of the track around, except
the 1st tracksector (and s/f line).... And I need that one on another place.... In
Addies 'how to make an accurate track' tutorial he moves it to the s/f line of Fiorano,
but I can't get it there.... PLEASE HELP ME!!!!
Thanks
Dikkie
Posted by addie from 194.191.82.27:
in gp3 its the same as in gp2, you move the beginning of the track by setting start-x
and start-y in the track config section.
but if you mean the s/f-line itsself, the white line that goes perpendular at the
beginning of the track, this is just a "jip", watch out for cmds 0xe8 near
the end of the track, some of them "paint" the grid and one of them makes
the s/f line
Posted by KEV. C from 213.1.152.152:
Hi I have finished my track and have spent a bit of time converting HW jams to SW
jams with the help of John Jerheijen(HW TO SW Guide),thanks. How ever I seem to still
have the wrong colour blue back ground even on jams that had not had the 00 to 08
conversion ,so from that I take the colour is wrong .I did use the JamEdtor0.52 palette
with PSP
Any one ??
Many thanks
Kevin Clover
Posted by Marcos Gauguin from 200.190.238.126:
Use the good old MSpaint.
Open a bitmap extracted from a SWjam, save the transparent color, paste the bitmap
you extracted from the HWjam, paint the light blue with that color and save the file.
Posted by addie from 194.191.82.27:
maybe you missed to check the transparency-flag ?
however, in sw-mode it should be easy to get the right transparency-color if you
make the palette-mapping first. this way you have a 256-colors palette to choose
from, where the transparency-color is the very first one.
Posted by Jean-Paul Nièpce
from 213.116.118.173:
how works track editor
Posted by addie from 194.191.82.27:
- launch TE (trackeditor)
- open exisiting track
- modify and save track
- test track in gp3
- look up "trouble shooters FAQ" @ http://www.grandprix3.ch/TEIC/index.html
- modifying track again etc.
(dont expect easy going, especially at the beginning)
(in case you alter the layout of the track, do "cc-line / remove cc line"
first)
Posted by Andrew from 205.188.197.176:
Hi, i know how to map them but the question is do i have to do a 0xC8 command for
all different 3d crowd textures or can i just put either of them in and all different
textures will appear, if i am not being clear enough i will explain
Posted by addie from 194.191.82.27:
you just need to map one of them (as they have the same texture-id anyway), and you
will need cmd 0xe9 for this. but figuring out the right dimensions (arguments) so
they "work" properly will be a bit tricky. if you find some rules here,
please post them (or even more appreciated: write a workshop on it)
Posted by Andrew from 152.163.206.178:
Thanks, but there are several all with a different texture Id and thats my question,
the ids are 960,61,62,63,64 and 65 so do I need a cmd for each of them or just one?
Posted by addie from 194.191.82.27:
as far as i can see you just need to map (0xe9) the texture 960 and gp3 manages the
rest (depending on distance and weather and session). see original f1ct12 in t107
for an example.
Posted by Knud Unser from 195.249.161.222:
What is a bumptable ?
Posted by addie from 194.191.82.27:
a table where you can define the "bumpiness" of the track. the pair of
values mean DFS (distance from start) and "bumpiness".
Posted by Adalberto from 151.35.71.185:
how can I edit the jam file in gp3???
it' s impossible for me make realistic tracks without a good jam editor ( like the
great gp2 jam editor )
Adalberto
Posted by addie from 194.191.82.27:
the gp2jameditor of mal ross works for SW-jams in gp3 also. you just need to switch
the palette (there is a button for this in the toolbar)
as for the HW-jams there is the gp3jam tool of garrenT to convert the jams to bmp
and back. sven mitlehner made a tool where you can change the texture-Ids. the transparency
flag you need to switch with a hexeditor so far. its the byte following the ID.
addie
adalberto zapparoli ? please get in touch with me
Posted by Tom from 195.44.0.224:
Is it possible to have night-rider circuits like in gp2?
Thanks for any response
Tom
Posted by addie from 194.191.82.27:
the trick i used in bern-grauholz could be possible for SW-version in gp3, but not
in HW-version ...
addie
Posted by Palicz György from
145.236.112.200:
Is there an editor, with i can set the cc cars pit stops with no fuel load. I mean
they only should change tyres, and no fuel load? It would be more realistic for older
seasons.
György
Posted by addie from 194.191.82.27:
so far i dont see a way to control what they should do in the pits. in the magic-data
you just can decide over the pit stop strategy as a whole ...
addie
Posted by Amdrew Smart from 195.92.194.16:
just wondered why my track should work in gp3 using gpxpatch in debug mode but when
you put it in normally without using gpxpatch it crashes back to windows
Posted by David Schneider from 213.3.171.110:
It`s because your Track don`t have a CMagic-File, and if you don`t have this you
can`t use your Track in any Slot...
Posted by SDI from 213.84.65.29:
The actual problem here is that gp3 asserts (int 3) because of some problem (e.g.
bump table too long). Normally this will stop the application immediately, but in
gpxpatch debug mode I'm catching the int 3 (working as a breakpoint then), ignore
it (but logging it in assert.txt if you enabled that), and let gp3 continue as if
nothing happened.
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